omaha a écrit :Comparons le comparable s'il vous plait, Brady aussi aurait joué sous commotion et franchement ça tout le monde s'en fout, c'est interdit mais c'est pas de la triche, c'est juste de l'inconscience.
C'est bien à l'équipe et au médecin de l'équipe de gérer les protocole commotion me semble t'il, enfin tu dis ça là mais on sait ce qu'il en est, si Brady était revenu en jeu alors qu'il avait subi une commotion, tu aurais crié à la triche parce que les patriots aurait pas voulu faire jouer Hoyer.
omaha a écrit :Et puis, si Jerry Rice utilisé de la colle, c'est Jerry Rice le tricheur, pas les 49ers...
ça rappelle le deflagate non? un joueur en cause qui soit disant manigance le coup de l'année, il est fort ce Brady il manigance le dégonflage d'1 ballon sur 12 et boum c'est celui qui est intercepté. Dommage que la NFL pense pas comme toi ça aurait évité de perdre un tour de draft et les amendes. Dire que tout ça part d'une histoire de température, PV=nRT, ça me fait penser à Montana qui payait 20 dollars le responsable des ballons pour qu'il les garde chauds (illégalement au cas ou vous vous poseriez la question), lui il s'y connait en physique.
Le rapport du site bien connu, pour ceux que le fond intéresse.Deflategate (2015) TEAM:
The New England PatriotsSUMMARY:
Immediately after the Indianapolis Colts were blown out (again) by the Patriots, this time in the 2015 AFC Championship game, Colts reporter Bob Kravitz broke a story that the NFL was investigating the Patriots for using underinflated footballs in the game.
Soon afterwards, Chris Mortensen hastily reported, based upon a now-discredited leak from the league, that 11 of the Patriots' 12 game footballs were deflated 2 PSI below the 12.5 PSI minimum legal requirement (Mortensen finally removed his inaccurate tweet on August 4, 2015 -- 195 days after he posted it.)
Two weeks later, on the morning of the Super Bowl, NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport corrected this information, reporting that just one of the 11 footballs was 2 PSI under the limit, while many were "just a few ticks under the [12.5 PSI] minimum."
According to ProFootballTalk, the one football that was 2 PSI under the limit was the ball intercepted by D’Qwell Jackson and taken to the Colts sideline and ultimately submitted to the NFL to launch an investigation. The NFL chose not to investigate whether the Colts intentionally manipulated that football before submitting it.
107 days later, NFL independent investigator special prosecutor Ted Wells gave up his search for concrete evidence and guessed that there was at least a 51% chance that the Patriots might have been involved in the deflation of the game footballs.
Facts, schmacts, who needs them? Do you just know in your hairy beer-gut that a team with the Patriots' spotty cheating history absolutely did this? This page is just for you. I think you'll like it.
UPDATE 1: On May 14, 2015 council for the New England Patriots issued a comprehensive rebuttal to the Wells Report. One significant point was that the Colts broke a written league rule when they tested the air pressure of the intercepted football during the game. The Wells Report never flagged that as an issue.UPDATE 2:
On May 21, Sally Jenkins of The Washington Post published the best Deflategate analysis to date showing how Goodell took an insignificant rule infraction and trumped it up to a franchise-smearing scandal to save his own hide.
"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell predetermined guilt in DeflateGate; that’s clear now. He has smeared Tom Brady and the New England Patriots without proper evidence or a competent investigation and turned an unimportant misdemeanor into a damaging scandal as part of a personal power play to shore up his flagging authority. In other cases, he just looked inept. In this one, he looks devious."
UPDATE 3: On June 12, The New York Times published an op-ed titled "Deflating 'Deflategate'" which summarized an analysis of the Wells Report done by an independent think tank called the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).
The AEI "On the Wells report" concluded:
"When we analyzed the data provided in the Wells report, we found that the Patriots balls declined by about the expected amount [ed. note: based on the Ideal Gas Law], while the Colts balls declined by less. In fact, the pressure of the Colts balls was statistically significantly higher than expected."
"This implies that the Colts balls sat in the warm room where they were to be measured — and thus increased in pressure — for almost the entirety of halftime before being measured."
"Logistically, the greater change in pressure in the Patriots footballs can be explained by the fact that sufficient time may have passed between halftime testing of the two teams’ balls for the Colts balls to warm significantly, effectively inflating them."
In early August, after all of the facts had been revealed, the league office leaks discredited and the not-really-independent Wells Report fully debunked by truly independent third party research organizations, ESPN's Skip Bayless had this to say:PUNISHMENT
: After 107 days, 12 hours, 8 minutes and 7 seconds, NFL independent investigator special prosecutor Ted Wells speculated (after giving his "independent" report to the league to edit) that someone on the Patriots was "more probable than not" involved in the possible deflation of game football used in the first half of the AFC Championship game vs. the Colts, and quarterback Tom Brady was probably "at least generally aware" of this.
Wells reported that the Colts and the NFL had setup a premeditated sting operation on the Patriots which allowed the league time to test all 11 of the Patriots game footballs at halftime, but only left enough time to test 4 of the Colts balls. Interesting enough, one official found that 3 out of 4 of the Colts footballs were also underinflated to an illegal PSI, even though they had known about the sting beforehand.
On May 11, 2015, the NFL suspended Patriot quarterback Tom Brady for four games for failing to cooperate with the investigation (by not turning over contents of his personal phone) and for being "at least generally aware" of the "more probable than not" ball deflation that the Well report felt wasn't caused by the cold weather. The team was also fined one million dollars and docked their 2016 first round and 2017 fourth round picks.
Patriots' owner Robert Kraft responded to the announcement by expressing his and the team's full support of Brady and condemning the "one-sided report" and its "dismissal of the scientific evidence."
Brady announced his appeal of his suspension on May 14, 2015. Goodell, after decided that he would OBVIOUSLY be the best person to impartially handle the appeal of his completely fabricated case, upheld the suspension on July 28, 2015. On July 29 the NFLPA filed an appeal on behalf of Tom Brady in federal court.UPDATE:
On September 3, 2015, U.S. District Court Judge Richard Berman issued a ruling that overturned the NFL’s four game suspension of quarterback Tom Brady. Berman's decision was premised upon several significant legal deficiencies in the NFL's case, including (A) inadequate notice to Brady of both his potential discipline (four-game suspension) and his alleged misconduct; (B) denial of the opportunity for Brady to examine one of two lead investigators, namely NFL Executive Vice President and General Counsel Jeff Pash; and (C) denial of equal access to investigative files, including witness interview notes.
NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Roger Goodell (ego-bruised and unwilling to give up on his petty witch-hunt) filed paperwork to appeal Berman's decision in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.
In this case, unlike many other ball-manipulation cheats, the team did not admit to cheating and there was absolutely no shred of evidence showing non-weather manipulation.SUMMARY:
After the release of Tom Brady's appeal transcript on August 4, 2015 and Judge Berman's ruling on September 3, 2015, it became clearly that the NFL simply lied, twisted, misrepresented and leveraged its profound ignorance to try to smear the reputation of one of its all-time great players for a yet-undisclosed reason. There is no evidence of cheating by Brady or the Patriots. There is, however, numerous examples of disgusting behavior by Goodell and the league office.